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sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 04:27 PM) lol - well, I just think of it as a one-handed top change - I've made use of it to get into the Braue pop up move during an ACR, as a control, as a switch when I need to "isolate" a card - using it along with a cull to switch it with a specific card, etc.
LucasCG  : (30 October 2014 - 04:15 PM) Thats the only use of the ultra move I know, tbh. I've only ever used it as a control. It has other uses? :p lol
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 04:05 PM) This is the general idea:
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 04:02 PM) It is very nice - just curious Lucas, have you ever tried it with the Ultra Move instead of the OHTP? This was one of the first uses of the ultra move I came up with once I learned it
LucasCG  : (30 October 2014 - 03:37 PM) That control is honestly near perfection IMO. Its one of my favorite things.. So simple, so easy, and soo damn deceptive when done well. Its one of those "why didnt I think of that?" beautiful things.
EZrhythm  : (30 October 2014 - 03:32 PM) Too cool, I was just thinking about palmed top changes the other day. I like to have them choose the place in the deck by saying stop or cutting the deck etc.; patter for a moment while adding the palmed card and then let them look at "their selection".
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 01:51 PM) Yup - that's correct. It's basically a dribble for a selection and ohtp as they look at it - set the right hand packet down, replace the palmed card onto the left hand packet and then peel it off (switched with selected card), and put that on the tabled packet and drop the left hand packet on top.
LucasCG  : (30 October 2014 - 12:26 PM) I believe its actually technically called T.C.O.H.T.P.C. (The Cheesy One Hand Top Palm Control).. Its in vol 1 of his lost cheesy notebooks.
xphoenix87  : (30 October 2014 - 10:34 AM) What's the Chad Long control? I'm not familiar with that.
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 08:57 AM) ohtp*
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 08:57 AM) and that is one of the top reasons I've been working on the othp!
LucasCG  : (30 October 2014 - 08:30 AM) Tbh I feel like everyone should learn to ohtp just so they can do that chad long control. I use it for that more than anything.. Love that thing.
LucasCG  : (30 October 2014 - 08:29 AM) Sgt, using the Morphew method with smaller hands makes sense. Forces your pinky to stretch less. Whatever works for you is the way to go
LucasCG  : (30 October 2014 - 08:27 AM) Glad it helped guys! Dale, the hardest part is fine tuning where it hits, but it comes with time.
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 06:27 AM) I'm actually finding that with that advice, I'm also finding more luck with the Glenn Morphew method - that is, lever the card using the skin by the first joint of the ring finger - it's much more consistent
rigiddigits  : (30 October 2014 - 06:17 AM) That's helped me as well. Got the card moving all the time now. Just need to get it to align properly and we're good to go. Nice one Lucas.
sgtgrey  : (30 October 2014 - 04:43 AM) Cheers Lucas - that really helps! I'll have to work with it to get it into position, but I think that'll really help. Thanks!
LucasCG  : (29 October 2014 - 09:59 PM)
LucasCG  : (29 October 2014 - 09:44 PM) Sgt, thats the same problem I had when I was learning it as well, to be honest. The key is to flatten out your hand before you pop the card up. Move the thumb inwards, and extend your fingers.This will force that corner of the card to be to the right of the thumb pad before the card is even levered up
sgtgrey  : (29 October 2014 - 06:53 PM) Lucas*
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